The image above depicts a harmless advertisment for a murder mystery play to be performed in the village of Claygate in Surrey. The irony of this fictional portrayal was the still unsolved real life brutal murders of two Claygate residents just four years before.

September 5th 2019 was the 7th anniversary of the Annecy shootings, (or the Chevaline killings), where 3 members of a British family and a French citizen were mysteriously shot to death on the tarmac Route Forestière Domaniale de la Combe d’Ire close to the small village of Chevaline, Haute-Savoie of near the southern end of Lake Annecy in France. The perpetrator has never been identified or caught. The four people killed were Iraqi born Saad al-Hilli, 50, his wife Iqbal, 47, (who lived in Claygate), her mother Suhaila al-Allaf, 74, who held a Swedish passport, and a local French cyclist Sylvain Mollier, 45. The al-Hillis’ two daughters, Zainab, 8 and Zeena, 4, both survived the attack although Zainab was severely injured.This blog is a close study of this particular event but it has alerted me to these type of killings which often attract a great deal of speculation and conspiracy theories.

The Annecy murders have been compared to the “Dominici affair”, a triple murder which took place in France in August 1952. The location is 250 km south of Chevaline near the small town of Lurs on Route 96, (now the D4096). This was the roadside shooting murder of Sir Jack Drummond and his wife Lady Anne. Their 10 year old daughter Elizabeth was bludgeoned to death with the murder weapon, an American war surplus .30 M1 rifle carbine. The Drummond’s were also on a camping holiday. The circumstances have some similarities and the roadside murder location is virtually unchanged.

Blog site :- THE DOMINICI AFFAIR – 67 years on.

Just over a year before the Annecy murders on July 19 2011, Xavier Baligant a 29 year old Belgian was returning home from a camping trip in France with his two young children. He stopped at the Aire-de-Malvaux rest area on the A31 just south of Nancy in the early hours to use the restroom. He was mysteriously shot and killed in front of the facility whilst his children slept in the car. His killer used a Swiss Schmidt- Rubin 7.5mm bolt action rifle and both the killer and weapon have never been found. This was also compared to the Annecy murders especially as the killer used a military surplus Swiss firearm. No connection other than the style of the murder has ever been established.

In November 2013 two masked men entered the house of a man and woman who owned a popular campsite in the village of Lathuile. This was just 3km north of Chevaline. They shot and killed the woman and badly beat her husband.

In October 2014 Jean-Francois Hauteville, 47 was shot dead while he sat in his van alongside a quiet road near Neuvecelle, 100 km to the North East of Chevaline. An associate was implicated but he hanged himself whilst in police custody.

Just 29 km to the east of Neuvecelle is the village of Ballaison. On March 27th 2019 the body of Daniel Forestier, 57 was found in a parking area close to this village. He had been shot five times in the head and torso. Married with two children he ran a café and wrote spy thrillers. He lived in the village of Lucinges 20 Kms to the south. Was he lured or forced; it remains a mystery. He had worked for the French external intelligence agency, the DGSE for 14 years. There is a great deal of speculation surrounding this recent murder.                               Separate blog – GUN KILLING IN FRANCE.

In July this year in the UK, Gurinderjit Rai was executed with a shotgun whilst parked in a lay-by in rural Hampshire. His murder is still under investigation.                                     Separate blog – WHO KILLED GURINDERJIT RAI.

The Annecy murders attracted a great deal of global attention. The circumstances prompted conspiracy theories and wild speculation. There is a realistic view that the attacker was a very disturbed individual just waiting to ambush random victims. Do these gun killers have anything in common even if their motives differ. Is location more significant than we realise. The Annecy murders mirror a well known mass shooting in the UK.

The Hungerford Massacre occurred just over 32 years ago when a local man, Michael Ryan shot and killed 16 innocent people on August 19th, 1987. Most of his victims were murdered inside the Berkshire market town. Ryan was a poorly educated, troubled loner, suffering with psychotic tendencies. His quiet and private demeanour concealed his inner frustrations. At the two gun club ranges where he used his legally licenced firearms he was seen as a safe and trusted shooting enthusiast. Outside this environment he was the antithesis of the responsible shooter; carrying firearms in his car and on his person at work locations. He admitted to one employer, Charles Armor that he would go out at night in his car shooting at roadside structures. Finding that difficult to believe Armor inspected a site that Ryan directed him to on the Shefford Road which runs north out of Hungerford and found 4 bullet holes through a direction sign.

Thames Valley Police admitted to finding bullet penetrated structures close to Hungerford after his rampage. It is hard to believe that the structure above on the Shefford road is the same one that Armor was directed to. What is more sinister is the thought that somebody else has returned and left signatures on a new one. Below and to the left of the group of 4 is another penetration from a different calibre weapon. The structure is still there.

The image below was taken in 2008, the site was just south of Hungerford. The structure has since been replaced.




The two brutal events 25 years and 750 miles apart would not appear to have anything in common. A closer look however reveals some features of interesting similarity. These are simple factual characteristics that might provide an insight into the Alps killer who remains a mystery. As a result this murder has drawn so much speculation and stimulated so much intrigue and opinion. Conspiracy theories have been rife, drifting away from the simple facts. I have visited both murder sites.

The circumstances surrounding Ryan’s first victim is often lost in the descriptions and image of Ryan stalking around the streets of Hungerford, killing his victims with a semi-automatic assault rifle. His first victim however was 7 miles from Hungerford; 35 year old Sue Godfrey from Burghfield Common near Reading who was by chance picnicking in Savernake forest park with her two young children. She had entered Savernake on Grand Avenue, a tarmac road that runs the length of the forest close to the small town of Marlborough.


Looking at both cases :-

Both murder scenarios were perpetrated in the summer months, on weekdays in fine weather within forest parks known and promoted for their beauty. Both locations offered signed and easy public access on tarmac roads. The two images above are views of the Savernake and Combe d’Ire parking locations.

Both victim’s cars were parked in the small roughly hewn parking areas to the side of a tarmac road. The locations were quiet but not remote. All the victim groups had not visited the locations before and had simply gone as a result of friendly suggestion; the al-Hilli family by their camp site manager, Sylvian Mollier by a friend and Sue Godfrey by her father.

The al-Hilli’s had taken happy family photographs in Doussard village, just a small distance from Chevaline and just a short time before they reached the Combe d’Ire forest route. Sue Godfrey had stopped to purchase fuel in Froxfield on the A4 just short of Savernake and had briefly passed the time of day with the fuel station proprietor, Kakboub Dean.

Michael Ryan knew Savernake Forest, he had frequented the place before, sometimes dressed in camouflage, stalking unsuspecting visitors on fanciful military style clandestine missions. He had set out in the late morning on the day of his shooting spree with firearms and ammunition in his car. He had spotted Sue Godfrey and her children and decided to target her. The Combe d’Ire killer was positioned where his victims would have to stop at the end of the public access road. Despite all the speculation of an assassination there is no evidence proving that the al-Hilli family or Mollier were on site to meet anybody or they were lured or being followed. Both locations would as a matter of course attract innocent visitors on each respective day. The Combe d’Ire route has sometimes been inaccurately described. It is not a road that you can take by mistake, the route is clearly marked off a sharp bend. Once on the route, there are options to turn around, nobody is trapped on it.

All the victims were shot multiple times at close range with a handgun. Both perpetrators made no attempt to retrieve the spent cartridge cases ejected from their semi-auto pistols. Although it is thought that Ryan might have intended to rape Sue Godfrey, he didn’t. Both Saad al-Hilli and Sue Godfrey made desperate attempts to get away once the attacks were underway. Nothing was taken or stolen from any of the victims.

The children present at both shootings were spared despite Zainab al-Hilli being badly hurt.

A British cyclist, Brett Martin was first on the scene at Annecy, he had not heard any shots despite being close to the murder site. He had a holiday property in the area but it was his first ride on the forest route. He found Zainab al-Hilli badly hurt near her parent’s car. Myra Rose was the first to reach the vicinity of Sue Godfrey’s demise, she found her two children wandering around confused and alone. She had not heard any shots. She was visiting friends in Marlborough and had set out alone that morning to enjoy a walk in the forest.

There were no witnesses to either killings. Both killers were easily able to make their escape and they had a choice of direction. They were both long gone before the police arrived.

Once the authorities discovered it was Michael Ryan who murdered Sue Godfrey it was accepted that he had sufficient knowledge to use a semi-auto 9mm Beretta, (pictured above), to kill his victim. Sue Godfrey was defenceless and Michael Ryan was no “professional”. Speculation has fuelled the view in some quarters that the Annecy murders were perpetrated by a “professional” assassin but questions the use of a 7.65mm P06 Luger, (below). Whoever the perpetrator was this semi-auto hand gun was extremely efficient, the Luger is easy to operate and very accurate especially at close quarters.  This gunman shock attacked his defenceless victims in the same brutal manner that Ryan killed Sue Godfrey. 

The killings in both circumstances were disjointed and messy. Sue Godfrey had tried to flee, she was shot 13 times in the back and was found face down across a wire fence. Saad al-Hilli had parked forwards into the parking area and had got out of his car with his daughter Zainab. Perhaps the killer, obscured from immediate view was waiting for a random target and was positioned in natural anticipation of a left-hand drive car. The al-Hilli’s right hand drive BMW momentarily confused him when Zainab stepped out; he was initially positioned on the wrong side of the car. By the time he had rushed forward to reach the far side of the BMW he had shot Sylvain Mollier who arrived at the same time and wildly shot at Zainab al-Hilli, hitting her in the shoulder. Saad al-Hilli ran back to his car and the attacker managed to shoot him in the back. Saad reversed his car in a wild wheel spinning 180 degree arc but rammed it into the soft bank. The killer shot him, his wife and her mother through the windscreen and side windows whilst they sat trapped in the car. Zeena remained in the car and was eventually found unhurt and concealed in the rear foot well.

It was oddly assumed that the killer failed to see her; he may well have been totally aware of the child but chose not to deliberately harm her. Equally he may well have attempted to kill Zainab, first by shooting, which failed and then by severely beating her. Thankfully she survived but the attacker gave no indication that it was the outcome he wanted.

Perhaps Ryan’s random attack in England’s Savernake forest and the way he cruelly murdered his victim in this location is a clue to what happened in the forest south of Lake Annecy in France. Ryan was comfortable in Savernake and knew the location, perhaps the Combe d’Ire  killer felt the same. Whilst totally unconnected there is perhaps an interesting trend apparent here. Had the al-Hilli group not arrived the victims might well have been the cyclist Brett Martin and the 3 French walkers in a car who arrived behind him.

In October 2015 I found evidence of gunfire damage and bullet debris on a steel forestry sign structure just 30 metres from the murder site. There was also gunfire penetration damage through roadside structures on nearby roads. This was promptly reported to the joint British and French investigation team but it was not reported to the Press. The Combe d’Ire structure was removed and sent to a French forensic facility in Paris. The gunfire damage perpetrated on this feature by two different firearms was determined to have taken place before the murder in 2012 and the embedded bullet debris did not match the murder weapon. This came as no surprise to me, it was the fact that it was there. This structure, subjected to damage by firearms in a public place had been overlooked throughout the entire period of the official investigation. The immediate area had undergone meticulous forensic investigation and searches, lengthy media reporting, filmed TV documentaries and public interest visits. It stood there only partly obscured by foliage, right alongside the experts and journalists offering their professional opinions. This perhaps begs the question; what else was missed and overlooked throughout the important initial investigation. The location contexts were different for the killers and their victims. For the gunman they were killing grounds. Ryan frequented Savernake; perhaps the Chevaline killer had done the same.

What does history reveal :-

The Sengoku period, (1467 – 1600) was a period in Japanese history marked by social upheaval and near constant conflict. Japan’s chaotic civil war, the Sengoku Jidai fostered murderous warriors and bandits who would ambush and slaughter innocent and unarmed victims on the roadside. This lawless environment encouraged the act of Tsujigiri, or “crossroads killing”. These merciless acts sought random individuals to test skills with a sword or to experiment with a blade weapon. When Japan eventually emerged from this dark period and the Edo era began, it became a capital offence.

These images have never appeared in any other narrative or report. I returned to the region and the murder location between October 14 – 17. There was more to find and consider.

New Blog – The ANNECY MURDERS – revisited 2019









  1. Interesting write-up and good connections drawn. I’m sure the local Police have looked at suspects with local knowledge as well as the possibility this was a ‘rage crime’. Hunting is common in French forests so bullet damage to signs is not unexpected as a lot of hunters are irresponsible, so this damage coming from the killer is only a slight possibility.

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  3. Compelling article. Makes total sense to me. All the theories of a Jason Bourne-esque contract killing, involving an icey cold, professional do not add up. Nor are they statistically likely. Some people love to kill and as you said, where most see a scenic, tranquil place to enjoy nature, a killer will see a perfect opportunity. Far more terrifying than the contract killing theory as we all become potential victims!

  4. Very well written piece and a pleasure to read. This case does seem as though it is destined to remain unsolved. I do wonder though how the police concluded that the murder weapon was a Swiss army 7.65 Luger. There are many handguns chambered for the 7.65 round, including the SIG P-210 and the FN ‘Hi Power’ (both of which are usually found in 9mm caliber). The SIG P-210 in 7.65 was issued to police in Denmark and elsewhere in the 50’s and 60’s. Unless the Swiss Luger marks the fired cartridges in a unique telltale way I don’t see how the police could have settled on this particular weapon.

    I wish you luck and Godspeed in your continuing investigation.

  5. Thanks for a well written and interesting piece. I suspect these murders may never be solved, although my own sense is they were not random killings. One thing I would like to understand is how the French police determined that the murder weapon was a P06 Swiss Luger firing the 7.65 parabellum, or 7.65 x 21 mm cartridge. This cartridge has been chambered in a range of handguns over the years, among them the Sig P210 and FN Hi-Power (both of which are usually encountered in 9mm parabellum caliber). The Sig P210 in 7.65 parabellum was the service pistol for the Swiss army for a time and additionally was issued to police departments in Denmark and elsewhere. Unless the P06 Swiss Luger makes some telltale mark on spent cartridge cases, I don’t believe it would be possible to state that the shots came from that particular type of pistol. I assume that the police did in fact find marks on the cartridge cases that allowed them to identify the type of pistol, but I have not been able to find anything written about this. I have seen comments from various pistol ‘experts’ on this matter that make me wonder. For instance a British ‘expert’ stated that the ammunition must have dated from the 1940’s since none is available now, when in fact, Fiocchi (and others) manufacture 7.65 parabellum cartridges today.

  6. I think you’re missing a part of the jigsaw here. Firstly September is an odd month to go camping in the Alps. Secondly , in all my years of caravanning both in the UK and all over Europe I have NEVER come across a family of robed Muslim women at a campsite. By all accounts the wife and mother were wearing the long black robes that denote their religion. Hardly the outfit for camping! The wife and mother were seen dressed this way by other campers at the site .
    I think you need to go back to square one and ask yourself:
    WHAT were they doing THERE ? WHY there THEN?

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